I am not a troll. Or a bot. I am Waymoe.

"waymoe" (waymoe)
08/27/2013 at 13:35 • Filed to: None

I am not a troll. I do not troll for the sake of trolling. I poke fun at people with inflated egos and reply to rantings with logic, presented in a funny way.

Victorias Secret. Can we not have a conversation? Do you perceive me to be slighting you by replying with logical statements?

Exhibit 1:

V : The internet experts, once again, will miss the point of the car.

THIS ISNT FOR YOU!

The 3, the Focus, in some aspects even the Dart and Golf are better for you if you want higher quality fit and finish and better driving dynamics.

By comparison, there are A LOT MORE drivers on the roads who do not give a flying fuck about such things. Hence, Corolla.

I wouldn't buy one, that doesn't mean I can't respect why it exists

Waymoe : "higher quality fit and finish and better driving dynamics."

What does this mean? Fit and finish is Kimi no? I have droven Darts, Golfs, Mazda3, Focus, Sonatas and Velosters. They are the same inside. The veloster was not great but I can not complain because it has odd number of doors and I have even number of arms. The Corolla is the same as these cars, it is just a Toyota. The corolla isnt designed to go very fast or corner very fast and neither are any of the cars mentioned above. They are all the same, you just perceive them to be different because you are angry. I will offer you a hug. But no hand stuff.

Am I trolling him? Do I deserve a dismissal or do I deserve a reasonable answer to my rebuttal? I think we all know the correct choice of actions is to defend your claim and then we can move on as adults.

Exhibit 2:

V : Everything that makes the 3 better to enthusiasts (and as such is marketed as being more enthusiastic) is something that the average Corolla buyer DOES NOT give a damn about.

They'll look at both, but the Mazda is marketed as being more sporty and more this or more that and the Corolla guy will say "Okay, but I don't want any of that"

Toyota knows their market, they know HOW to market the car and they know how to get the sales from that market. You want Toyota to change their car to appeal to a market that is already well serviced and to cater to a bunch of internet experts who wouldn't be buying their car in the first place no matter what it was

Waymoe : They are the same car. You say yourself it is just marketing. Stop fighting the bad fight. Fight the good fight, the one with kittens

I present to you 2 pieces of evidence. After review of the facts you shall see that I am no troll. I simply present my arguments in certain ways, ways many of you also use. VS is the internet expert and I am merely the internet user, I know my place from now on. I have consulted the internet experts and the finding is that Victoria's Secret is that she is a bitch. A dismissive bitch. or thundercunt, depending on the wordsmith who is smithing the words.

DISCUSSION (69)

dinobot666 > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:39

Did you lose your rights to post on the front page too?

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:39

I can't take anything you say seriously if you can't even spell our resident Canadian's name right.

waymoe > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 13:41

Victorious. Victorious. Victorious. I am calling him Victoria because I want to be mean.

Joe_Limon > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:41

VS can be a very angry person. But as to the topic at hand.

Intelligence by many is defined as the ability to make finer distinctions.

By this logic someone who is more well versed in vehicles (or even specific types of vehicles) will never the less see your comment stating that all vehicles are basically the same as being rather uninformed. It's like talking to a physicist and stating that all particles are basically the same since they are so small you can't see them anyway.

waymoe > dinobot666
08/27/2013 at 13:41

No. I am being dismissed because people do not like to be challenged.

Tekamul > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:42

Point 1) It's Victor ious Secret, he's a dude

Point 2) He's a rage-aholic, the only one in Canada. So expect over amped responses or outright dismissal. It's best to just ignore it

waymoe > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 13:43

All vehicles are not the same. The vehicles mentioned in the comment are the same for all intents and purposes, that is, to drive you to work.

BrtStlnd > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:44

Yeah I'd agree... he does look pretty fit and Finnish.

Kinja'd!!!

waymoe > Tekamul
08/27/2013 at 13:45

I am aware of both points.

When your name is Bart and kids call you Fart, it is because they are insulting you. Not because they can't read.

Joe_Limon > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:46

Please refer back to my previous statement regarding intelligence.

You can make blanket statements saying that for all intents and purposes all food/drinks are the same. Or that all homes, or furniture, or space ships... the point is, by ignoring the differences... you are being... well... ignorant.

dinobot666 > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:46

I learned that the hard way about posts about escalators. :(

Joe_Limon > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 13:48

:'( hey, I live about 150km south of him.

waymoe > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 13:49

It was a conversation about 4-5 specific vehicles regarding "fit and finish."

Thats a mighty small blanket, more of a large napkin really.

Kate's Dirty Sister > BrtStlnd
08/27/2013 at 13:50

Finn and finished

Kinja'd!!!

ddavidn > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:52

As a person who drives to work every day, I do look at the "little things" as being a big deal sometimes. There are differences, not necessarily to make one "better" or "worse", but to better suit them for the individual making the purchase.

Also, your post in which you try to insult a member of the community by misspelling his name and calling him a "she" was misinterpreted and instead made you look a bit daft. Probably not the best way to prove that you aren't a troll.

Joe_Limon > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:52

Again, it's all relative. The differences between vehicles in the same class will be night and day for someone who lives and breathes news/stats/etc of said vehicles.

For all intents and purposes there is nothing different between a mcdonalds burger and a burger king burger.... pretty small set there right? Same thing still applies.

waymoe > ddavidn
08/27/2013 at 13:53

Or is it?

Kate's Dirty Sister > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:53

That's true, except that the Mazda will rust quickly, the Focus will depreciate faster and the Golf will break more often.

ddavidn > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:54

Nope. I think the best way is to just dismiss comments that offend you, and not reply or make a brand-new post to try to prove something. Just let them go. Trolls make things a bigger deal than they really are.

(Says the guy who replies to the troll-ish post, d'oh!)

waymoe > ddavidn
08/27/2013 at 13:55

or..is...it?

Im exposing an abuse of power. Someone shared our conversation to oppositelock, he jumped in and deleted it because...because he wanted to.

Takuro Spirit > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 13:56

Kinja'd!!!

ddavidn > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:04

How was I supposed to figure that out from your post? Just as well, I most likely didn't want to see the conversation anyway. There is also not much that any of us can do about an abuse of power, and it's not likely that an admin would figure out what you were complaining over. If it's an abuse of power you want to draw attention to, I think that should be in the opening paragraph. Or it should be the only paragraph.

waymoe > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 14:05

McDonalds burger doesnt have seeds on the bun, BK does. McDonalds is griddle cooked, BK is flame grilled. McDonalds and BK both have pickels, ketchup, onions. They both fill my stomach after I eat them.

VS does not breathe news/stats/etc of low end consumer cars. He knows that Corolla != Ferrari and therefore is turrble. If I am not qualified to comment, no one is. We can be pedantic all day but we all know that the situation was handled like a child would. Fingers in ears yelling nah nah nah. All intents and purposes is allowable when a set group of figures falls into the same category, at the end of the day they all belong to C. Fit and finish is a pretend phrase.

Tekamul > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:10

I see. Going with the pre-pun version was maybe more subtle than I expected.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:13

VS's demeanor on here is rarely short of abhorrently elitist and authoritative. He thinks he has the whole world figured out at age 21, and he's not afraid to let you know it. It's unfortunate, because he seems like a fairly intelligent, well put together dude, but he does a great job of painting himself as a raging douchebag.

You keep waymoeing away, waymoe.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:17

I'm so glad we sparkling wit like you coming up with these great names and ideas. Otherwise, we'd all be drooling on ourselves. Seriously, how are you being any different or better now?

waymoe > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 14:19

Im not and thats the point. Violence begets violence, ignorance begets ignorance, being a dick on the internet...you get the gist.

highmodulus > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:24

Kinja'd!!!

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:26

You're not gonna win a pissin contest against VS though. He's a staple and a true member of the community here. He's got more vet status than most of these jokers claiming to have been around forever. You're just some butthurt pup.

waymoe > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 14:30

There in lies the fundamental issue. Confirmaton bias, jingoism, and all around you dont belong here mentality.

FYI, I have been here a long time, you know me as someone else.

If VS's username was user4456 you wouldnt defend him. You're defending who you know, not what you know.

Ex. President Mack41 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 14:35

That whole staple vet status nonsense is such a turn off. If you're new and a dick you get called out but if you've stuck around you get to keep fucking around as a dick. That's not right.

bourgeoisie > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:41

If these two examples are the best you can come up with to bolster you're argument, then as much as I hate to say it, VS is completely correct, and you are flat wrong.

One of you speaks in specific, the other in generalizations, then you trade places. None of it offers any value to the rest of us.

brian1321 > bourgeoisie
08/27/2013 at 14:44

I dont think anyone was arguing what was being said.

vs said fit and finish. waymoe said fit and finish isnt a real word.

vs said its all marketing. waymoe agreed.

SonorousSpeedJoe > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:45

I'm the one who shared that post to Oppo.

Certainly wasn't expecting any of this.

Joe_Limon > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:49

Before you go off making rash accusations about people you don't know. Realize that he has been in the market for these vehicles a few times within the past couple years. He has owned a new Veloster, Focus (st?), and something else I believe. He has spent considerably more time researching his purchases and this market then you have.

Your distinctions between those two burgers adequately proves my point. On the surface they are both junky fast food burgers, but look closer and they are clearly not the same thing. The same can be said with any subject matter.

bourgeoisie > brian1321
08/27/2013 at 14:49

VS is a well known rageaholic, but he's often right. Waymoe asked if [waymoe] was being a troll, my answer was yes.

Which would I rather interact with on Oppo? VS, as painful as it is to say.

brian1321 > bourgeoisie
08/27/2013 at 14:51

Fair enough

waymoe > SonorousSpeedJoe
08/27/2013 at 14:52

AT-TICA! AT-TICA!

waymoe > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 14:53

I do know him. You do not know me. Who is to say I have not been looking into these cars for the same amount of time or longer? Who is to say I am not Kimi, or Steve Austin, or Bill Cosby?

The burgers are exactly the same. You can spice and season a burger, you cant put paprika on a mazda3 and make it less of a commuter car.

Joe_Limon > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 14:57

Well aren't we in a pickle, you're correct, I have no idea if you are a car salesman at a conglomerated dealership, or if you're simply an armchair enthusiast. I retract the second half of that statement. Naturally, I assumed you knew/cared little for the market with your blanket generalizations. But perhaps you are in a position of knowing/caring, yet for some other reason cannot bring yourself to observe finer distinctions then "these cars are basically the same since they call compete with each other".

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 15:19

I know you as someone else? Okay. Then let's have you be you. Tell me who I know you as. I am defending who I know. But at least I'm doing it as me.

waymoe > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 15:29

Im the hero Oppositelock needs and deserves.

I'm waymoe. It shouldnt matter if you're known or unknown, been here for 6 hours or 6 years. We're all people.

Joe_Limon > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/27/2013 at 16:10

psssst, I think this is IHAC/SKZ/etc.

waymoe > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 16:25

Wrong but I 100% get that guess.

Joe_Limon > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 16:34

hmmm what would SKZ say about being accused of being IHAC?

oh wait! :S

pdthedeuce > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 17:42

cars...motorcycles...buses...they all take you places , so they are the same thing.

Ex. President Mack41 > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 17:46

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Joe_Limon
08/27/2013 at 19:33

He's probably a regular regular and is just feeling the butthurt lately.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > waymoe
08/27/2013 at 19:37

Hero? You're not a hero. You're someone who got in over their head when they took VS's mouthing off way too seriously. And then you went on Oppo to make a post to WHINE about it. No, you're no hero. Just a kid with a plastic sheriff badge who thinks it means something outside your bedroom.

Victorious Secret > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/29/2013 at 20:34

In an amusing turn of fate, I guess I unintentionally trolled someone so bad (all I did was dismiss two comments) that they blew a lid and came crying home to what they think is their mommy in oppositelock but a tough lesson to be learned is that...

Well, I forgot what the lesson was.

Bacon?

Victorious Secret > BrtStlnd
08/29/2013 at 20:36

Draw me like one of your French girls

Victorious Secret > highmodulus
08/29/2013 at 20:37

In this case no real arguing by me, a full blown temper tantrum by OP.

Can't find a picture to express that scenario.

Victorious Secret > ddavidn
08/29/2013 at 20:38

The irony is I am not a mod nor do I have any 'powers' so this abuse of power I am being charged with is a childs dream at best, the rantings of a 2 year old at worst.

ddavidn > Victorious Secret
08/29/2013 at 20:46

Leaning away from the "best" end of that spectrum and going with delusional two-year-old.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Victorious Secret
08/29/2013 at 20:46

Definitely bacon.

An not to use Batman quotes to justify being a bitch.

But mostly bacon.

Victorious Secret > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/29/2013 at 20:48

The only time one is permitted to use Batman quotes to justify being a bitch is when you win a QOTD using a Batman quote. I think its in the terms of service for this place.

Plus, he fucked up the line!

I can trust a man with a great many things but when you misquote such a legendary line, that trust is gone.

Also, American Bacon. Not Canadian Bacon. I like Canadian Bacon but the American Bacon hits the spot much better.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Victorious Secret
08/29/2013 at 20:49

Well it's from a fattier part of the pig. More freedom that way.

Victorious Secret > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/29/2013 at 20:50

Freedom pig is possible the best kind of pig.

Smoked freedom pig is to die for.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Victorious Secret
08/29/2013 at 21:12

Especially when it's from the south. With some awwww-thenic hickory bar-bee-cue.

Victorious Secret > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/29/2013 at 22:48

Its funny we are discussing bacon when in the presence of the user formerly known as Swine.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Victorious Secret
08/29/2013 at 22:50

Is that who that is? He wouldn't tell me lol.

Victorious Secret > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/29/2013 at 22:55

Convoluted process of non-scientific, purely theoretical deduction based upon hours of watching Suits and half a pizza.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Victorious Secret
08/30/2013 at 06:55

Yo, Suits is an excellent show. If that's where your conclusion came from, I'd run with it.

DasWauto > waymoe
08/30/2013 at 09:00

Brian1321?

highmodulus > Victorious Secret
08/30/2013 at 09:07

Kinja'd!!!

waymoe > DasWauto
08/30/2013 at 10:43

Older

DasWauto > waymoe
08/30/2013 at 10:46

Fodder650 and I'm pretty much out of ideas.

Victorious Secret > DasWauto
08/30/2013 at 14:42

Swine

DasWauto > Victorious Secret
08/30/2013 at 15:04

I thought about that but didn't think he'd been around that long.